Episode 98

Published on:

27th Feb 2022

The S Curve of Smart Growth with Whitney Johnson

Leading teams and organizations to greatness has never been more challenging than it is right now. But there is opportunity amidst the chaos.

We are now in an era of post-traumatic growth. An Egon Zehnder study reports that 80% of CEOs strongly agreed they needed to transform themselves as well as their organizations—up from 26% prior to the pandemic.

Employees want to grow. Leaders want to help their people and their companies grow—and recognize that the only way to do that is to grow themselves. The challenge lies in knowing how to stop walking in circles, and move forward.

In her new book SMART GROWTH: How to Grow Your People to Grow Your Company (Harvard Business Review Press; January 11, 2022) Whitney Johnson, CEO of Disruption Advisors, and one of the top ten business thinkers in the world as named by Thinkers50, provides a set of tools to get smart about growth.

Whitney Johnson is CEO of the tech-enabled development company Disruption Advisors, an Inc. 5000 fastest-growing private company in America and was recently named #8 on the Thinkers50 list for 2021, made up of the 50 leading business thinkers in the world. She is an award-winning author, a regular keynote speaker and she and Shelley really hit it off on this week's episode.

Time Stamps:

3:50--Working on a new framework of personal disruption led to the S Curve concept

9:55--Whitney's turning point moment of realizing she is going to have to disrupt herself

11:45--What's interesting about different kinds of fears

16:31--We're all operating at different levels of fears and awareness

19:38--Whenever you start something new you are at the base of the S

25:00--The many different ways you can apply the S curve to your life

31:06--The six stages of growth that correspond to the S curve

39:00--That place where your identity is shifting

44:20--You want to race before you've spent time in the collector phase

47:40--How 2022 is the Great Aspiration rather than the Great Resignation

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Chad Prevost

Dr. Chad has advanced degrees in creative writing, literature, and theology. Being married to a psychotherapist has been another education. A workshop leader and entrepreneur, he has started and participated in writing and literary arts communities in New York, Austin, Atlanta and Chattanooga. He also has experience writing as a journalist for startups in tech and logistics. He is the author of several books of poetry, as well as interactive-fiction for youth. Over the years, he has innovated writing processes to foster reflection and insight, narrative strength, and authentic voice.