Episode 30

Published on:

22nd Jun 2020

Learning Curve: 5 things that block empathy

On this week's episode, Chad and Shelley explore empathy. Why is it on the decline when it was a trendy topic throughout the past decade? Why should we practice empathy in the first place? What gets in the way of us building empathy, even when it's something we say we want?

We explore these questions and more from our home studio in quarantine. As always, thanks for tuning in, subscribing, and leaving us a review!


0:21 Chad opens up the podcast by introducing the concept of empathy.

3:42 As the expert, Shelley starts diving a little deeper into what empathy really is and why it's hard to practice in our culture.

9:32 We're discussing 5 empathy blocks today. The need for certainty is number one.

15:25 Shelley introduces empathy block #2: over-empathizing.

17:27 The need to manage your own anxiety comes in as our third empathy block.

20:37 Empathy block #4 is the need for agreement

24:51 Our last empathy block is the need to live in your head.

27:43 We've discussed these 5 empathy blocks, now what do we actually DO with this knowledge?

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For the first two seasons, Shelley and Chad discussed everything from burnout to productivity to self-awareness. Now the duo deep dives into all facets of the Enneagram, all packed in the form of practical, actionable insights. For leaders and team-builders in the business world, as well as those practicing the Enneagram on their own.
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Chad Prevost

Dr. Chad has advanced degrees in creative writing, literature, and theology. Being married to a psychotherapist has been another education. A workshop leader and entrepreneur, he has started and participated in writing and literary arts communities in New York, Austin, Atlanta and Chattanooga. He also has experience writing as a journalist for startups in tech and logistics. He is the author of several books of poetry, as well as interactive-fiction for youth. Over the years, he has innovated writing processes to foster reflection and insight, narrative strength, and authentic voice.