Episode 81

Published on:

13th Sep 2021

Enneagram 5s Talk Holding On, Feedback Loops, and Learning to Trust

Today we speak with Richie Daigle and Chris Schoolcraft, two Fives who have done a lot of work to under their personalities and how they show up in the world.

We discuss what it's like being a headtype as our center of intelligence, and how they hold on to their knowledge and skills and share it only when they feel completely ready.

Fives highly value working independently. They're more comfortable with data and facts than with people and emotions. They also tend to see the work they do through the lens of information that needs to be mastered in order to get the job done. Fives sincerely enjoy learning and you can count them to provide a high level of expertise and authoritative information when given the time to prepare. They also make for good listeners and you can count on them to stay focused on their tasks.

We discuss all this and much more on this week's Enneagram Five episode.

Time Stamps:

1:16--Richie Daigle introduces himself

3:35--Chris Schoolcraft introduces himself

5:52--Richie discusses what it was like being in his head as a semi-professional baseball player

8:05--Chris talks about being disconnected from his heart and body (as a head type)

16:25--Richie says he feels like Fives need a certain sense of control

20:50--It's like being out on a frozen pond and not being sure the ice can hold

28:59--Having had people encroach on their boundaries, Fives can sense from a long way away if someone is being nosy

34:02--Shelley asks the panelists about the passion of Avarice

38:42--The idea of being prepared is really important

42:45--Chris discusses how he may avoid things by generating a defense of indifference

47:55--Chris has tried to trust more and think less when it comes to his growth path

51:33--Richie talks about getting stuck within feedback loops

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The Big Self Podcast
Inner Growth. Outer impact.
Shelley and Chad kick off each week with a provocative thought leader who has something to say about the power of inner growth to drive outer impact. From building resilience to life design to life transitions to leadership to growing ourselves up, we touch on all things Big Self. At the back end of the week Chad and Shelley dish on their experiences and expertise.

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Chad Prevost

Dr. Chad has advanced degrees in creative writing, literature, and theology. Being married to a psychotherapist has been another education. A workshop leader and entrepreneur, he has started and participated in writing and literary arts communities in New York, Austin, Atlanta and Chattanooga. He also has experience writing as a journalist for startups in tech and logistics. He is the author of several books of poetry, as well as interactive-fiction for youth. Over the years, he has innovated writing processes to foster reflection and insight, narrative strength, and authentic voice.